I have the old Binox HD and the new Binox 4k, and my experience it's no so good.
In day light they are fantastic, after sunset (with a little bit of light) they are great, but in totally dark they are awful.
The image of the newest 4K at totally dark is poor, with to many noise and less light then the Binox HD. With the new ones I can't see beyond 150yrds, but with the old ones I can see perfectly beyond 300yrds with a bright image.
I also try to take some pictures in totally dark to show ATN but until that is not good. In the bino I see a bad image and when I take a picture it comes tottaly black. Then I make a movie and it seems to show what I see in the bino.
I own the old HD and new 4K BinoX. I have the same experience in totally darkness. The old HD BinoX is much better. Below the answer from ATN support regarding this issue:
"Last week I bought the new BinoX 4K binoculars, so I own now the BinoX 4K and HD binoculars. I'm very impressed of the laser rangefinder, battery life and the day light mode. The improvement of this features is huge comparing to the BinoX HD version. But I'm disappointed about the night vision mode. The range in darkness in comparison to the BinoX HD is worse. Maybe I did something wrong during the binoculars settings in system menu? Could you give me some hints how to adjust the night vision mode? The BinoX HD allows to focus the IR illuminator beam, this adjustment is missing in the new 4K binoculars - could it be the reason why the 4K binoculars range in darkness is worse?"
"The binox-4k allows you to adjust the IR intensity, the unit may be set in a low IR mode, also try resetting/calibration the unit as it could potentially be an issue with the night vision settings inside the binoculars from the original installation. However your BinoX-4K's Night vision when operating correctly should have no issues out performing the binoxs-HD"
I’m have the same problem, and it’s not adjustable, at 100yrd maximum the Binox 4K are much better then Binox HD, but beyond that they are awful, we can’t see almost nothing. ATN has to make a new firmware to improve the image or improve the way that the Binox catch the IR light, so we can have a clear image like the old ones. If ATN think’s that I’m wrong please send us a image from the Binox 4K in totally darkness with the IR in position 5 at 150 yards or 200yards. With that image we can see that we are wrong. In YouTube we have some movies but they are using two IR so the image we see is not the same.
Last Edit: Nov 4, 2019 11:01:20 GMT -8 by zedopito
I made a comparison between the binox HD and 4K. Attached you can find the pictures from both binos that I did.The old Binox HD is much better than the new 4K. The pictures from HD are clear and bright.
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tp: Sry for my bad English skills, I'll try again. At first I saved the current coordinates (x,y). Afterwards I updated the software and reseted the system. Then I putted the saved coordinates in again. My question is: Am I supposed to make a control shot
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